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Rails and Rising Stars: A Journey with Luv Sehgal
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In this episode, Walt chats with Luv Sehgal (Senior Rail Engineer, ARUP). A native of India, Luv grew up surrounded by the world’s fourth-largest railway network, making it easy to fall in love with rail as a kid. He took that passion and propelled it into an accomplished engineering career. From winning the CEEAA Young Alumni Achievement Award presented by the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign to becoming a frequent presenter at the AREMA Annual Conference, he’s done a lot in his short career. The pair discuss what it’s like to compete for a job with the eighth largest employer in the world that only the top 50 applicants in the country have a chance with. Luv also shares advice for international students considering a career abroad; a world of unique challenges and opportunities in rail awaits them. Keep an eye out for this rising star; we’re sure you’ll hear his name often.
It was really good to see. You know, like we refer to Arima manuals on a daily basis. Like as of now, even today, like I'll be referring to Arima in my meeting, which is in 30 minutes. I have to tell to clients, hey, this is what Arima says. So being a part of drafting those technical standards, that manual, editing those, like that sorts of that gives you a very good experience. You know, like everybody in the country and the continent is using those manual, right? And if you are in the committee, you are giving your inputs. Even if you're not giving your inputs, you are part of the committee which is editing, modifying it. So it feels good. Like you feel good about yourself.
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SPEAKER_03Hey everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Platform Chats. Believe it or not, this is number 33. I can't believe it that we're uh in the 30s at this point. And I believe this is, you know, again, season three. Uh I'm pretty sure this is episode four for the year. We're doing our best to try to keep the cadence, you know, at once a month if we can. Um not always easy, but we're doing our best. We always try to make sure we get interesting and entertaining guests. It sounds like a lot of people did enjoy uh the last podcast we did with Kerry Gonzalez, what got a lot of uh downloads. And um we are now gonna have another cool guest to uh share the the show with, and uh that is Mr. Love Segal. And he is, if you remember, he uh shared the stage with me at Arima in the fall of 2024. Um excuse me, fall of 2023. Right, love? Yeah, I'm already messing up, man. Um so yeah, he was on the stage with me for a keynote uh where we talked about hydrogen trains, sustainability, uh moving from potential even electric trains to or from diesel to electric to hydrogen. Uh Love has been in the industry for quite some time. Great speaker, great guy. Um, I think a lot of people enjoy what he has to say. I'm really excited he agreed to be on the podcast. And on top of that, he he just recently received um a young alumni achievement award uh from the University of Illinois that is not always given out to people in the rail industry. So this is kind of a special deal where we feel like we uh he's part of our family uh in this industry. And so we want to recognize him and give him a chance to talk a little bit about that and sustainability and whatever else he wants to talk about. So uh I'll shut up now. Uh Love and let you just introduce yourself to the to the audience here and talk about how you got to where you are.
SPEAKER_00Sure, Wall. Thanks a lot for the opportunity. It's great to talk to you. Um yeah, I I I got this uh uh this award, and uh like I think that award is basically given out to uh given out to the people uh from uh College of Engineering by University of Illinois. And uh it's usually the award uh given to people uh from tech or uh army or AFS, but very few times. I think only once a a rail person got the award. So I think I'm lucky to get this award. And um I think Walt, you asked me about uh about how I got into the rail industry, right? So uh yeah, I mean my dad is an Indian railways officer, so I grew up in a railway family. I grew up in the railway colony, like unlike America's, India has uh in India the railways is under the government of India. Uh and uh and there's a ministry called Ministry of Railways. So Ministry of Railways own the train, they run the train, they operate the train. And uh and you I don't know if you know this, uh Indian Railway at one point, uh like a decade ago was the largest employer in the world, like with 1.5 million employees. So so basically, railways owns a lot of land in India, they have their own railway colonies. So I grew up in this railway background, living with railway officers, families. We had our own clubs, our own community centers, our own uh, you know, uh place was for recreation. And always there was a train running around, like there was a train in the nearby vicinity. So I I grew up there. I grew up in the railway arena, and uh so my dad, so so the different different disciplines in the railways, and my dad was a civil engineer, so he was the in charge of the tracks and all the civil engineering assets, all the bridges and tunnels. Uh and he served as one of the topmost bureaucrats of the railways by the time he retired, like three years ago. So as a kid, uh I was very much uh impressed by the uh by the track infrastructure, the rail, the trains, everything that just excited me. So uh when I was five or six, I just asked my dad if I can accompany him in a railway saloon expense in the railway saloon inspection. So that's a uh a railway car given to uh a car given to a railway officer for the inspection purposes. And it's the entire car, it has a it's like a house. So uh yeah, you go there, you inspect your tracks, be on the on the track for like a week or so. So I really enjoy that. I I enjoyed sitting with him, with his counterparts, with his subordinates, uh, with different section engineers uh who used to tag along, uh tag along with us. So that really inspired me. Apart from rail these inspections, I I joined him on trolley inspections, different inspections that was possible. I used to go as I was growing. And then um, and that's the reason I chose civil engineering because to get into railway job in India, civil is one of the best uh engineering branches that you opt for. So I joined uh uh National Institute of Technology Hamirpur in India, uh, one of the good colleges there, and I pursued civil there. My interest was always in railway, so I did pursue uh an internship with Delhi Metro Rail Corporation and uh the high speed, well, the semi-high speed rail project of India back in 2014. Um so yeah, I I was with the Agra Division division of the Indian Railways. The only that was their pilot project for the semi-high-speed train running at like 160 miles per hour. So yeah, that got me really excited. I after after doing my bachelor's, I did try to uh uh get into the Indian Railways, but uh it's very competitive. You have to be in the top 50 of all the civil engineers in India. Uh I was like around 100, so I got Ministry of Water Resources.
SPEAKER_03Oh, you only got a top hang on a second, you only got top 100 and you're on this podcast? I I only talk to guys in the top 50, love.
SPEAKER_00Oh my bad. So that's so competitive. You know, you have to get that 50 rank out of 300,000 people. Wow. Uh so yeah, it's it's very competitive.
SPEAKER_03So you went to school in India though, correct?
SPEAKER_00Yes. So I did my bachelor's, and then after bachelor's, I appeared for this exam. That's uh engineering services exam conducted by the Union Public Service Commission of India to get into the elite Indian Railway Services. The toppers get Indian Railways, by the way. And then it's National Highway Authority, and then it's military ingenious, and then it's water resources, and then it's border roads and ordnance factories. So I got water resources uh with that.
SPEAKER_03So wait, you get so that's based on your ranking of how well you did in school?
SPEAKER_00Yes. Wow. No, no on the basis of that exam, that three-day exam.
SPEAKER_03On the three-day exam. Okay, okay, and then where you place on that exam basically directs you to where you can go work?
SPEAKER_00Which ministry you can join as an officer. As an officer, yeah, it's not like any job, it's an officer.
SPEAKER_03I can't imagine if that happened in the United States. There would be uh there would be some major breakouts of fighting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so competitive. Wow, okay.
SPEAKER_03So you went there and then when because you're you where are you sitting right now?
SPEAKER_00I'm actually in Toronto right now. Okay.
SPEAKER_03And that's where you live, right?
SPEAKER_00That's uh yeah, I have been living here for three years, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, and and and when did you go to Canada from India?
SPEAKER_00So actually, um like I worked in India for two years with Ministry of Water Resources, and then but I was always interested in railways, so I applied for a master's program at University of Illinois because that was the only school in entire Americas which had a railway engineering program. So I applied to that program, and the research group is called Rail Tech. It was headed by Professor Chris Barkin, and I think my advisor was uh Conrad Rupert. All thanks to him, he got me accepted. And uh yeah, I came here in 2015 uh to US in Urbana Champaign. I did my master's, 2015, 2017. Uh, and then I joined Air Up and then uh I have moved, like I've switched I have moved to different cities, New York, Boston, and now I'm in Toronto.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, and so when you uh you you finished your master's in railway engineering, it sounds like um is that transportation, but yeah, it's master's in transportation, but my uh like so there are research groups, like you know, if you want to excel into pavements, traffic engineering.
SPEAKER_00I was selected by the real research group. So yeah, it's master's in civil specialization in transportation with further specialization in railways.
SPEAKER_03Okay, and and and as many people know, there's uh a multiple um you know arenas, if you will, in the railway industry in which you can play. So, you know, I'm I'm in the bridge world, and you you specifically play in and work on what part of the railway industry?
SPEAKER_00Sure. So because I'm a civil engineer, I I deal with the civil aspects of track infrastructure. So tracks and the foundation, and uh uh as a track engineer, like the alignment guy is the guy who uh who's like a PM and who uh coordinates with all the disciplines, by like be it signal, comms. So I'm like so it's it's uh industry practice, you know. The track guy, apart from doing the alignment and track work, is also the PM. So I also coordinate with uh different disciplines, OCS, signals, and telecoms, so that we are all aligned because you know, as a track engineer I have to produce cross-sections as well. So I have to make sure there's enough space in my guideway, in my tunnel. So it's it's a mixture, it's a track. Plus, I'm also the like a PM or deputy PM for rail systems. So that's where I stand.
SPEAKER_03Okay. All right, and so obviously, you know, we were talking hydrogen trains last fall. Um, what what got you in that, or what's your experience with some of the sustainability stuff? Do you want to touch on that?
SPEAKER_00Sure. Uh, you know, sustainability is is a part of every project. So uh like every project has a separate environment group. They talk about like they have to do some LCA life cycle uh analysis, life cycle cost analysis. There are different, so many uh different uh environmental studies they need to do. So for one of the projects uh that I'm doing in Toronto, it's called uh and Egglinton Crosstown West Extension. And uh the environment team, they approached me and they said, you know, uh we need to do the the embodied carbon calculation and the life cycle analysis of the of the entire system, of the entire all the civil works, railworks. So that was like my first experience, like how much cement would be there, how much concrete is there, how much steel would be used. Like we were actually quantifying the carbon, and that's how I got started slowly and steadily. Then I was involved in a study in Australia. Uh it's an internal study that we were doing in Erapa. That was about the uh conventional fuel versus alternative fuels. And uh alternative fuels are like numerous, like synthetic diesel, biofuel, and one of them happens to be hydrogen fuel, hydrogen, yeah, uh as a fuel. So um, so yeah, we we did some studies, we did some uh KPEX analysis, operational analysis, like if you have a hydrogen train, say in a particular section, like what's the best case scenario? And that's technically what I presented uh at Arima. Like uh, you know, hydrogen technology is there, but what is the best use of that technology? What's the best case scenario so that we can gain maximum out of it? Right. So that's kind of the story behind that.
SPEAKER_03Which is interesting, and it seems like it is progressing even since we spoke. Uh I've read articles about it, and there are trains being produced um to run on hydrogen. Um I think I might be going to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_00The freight is getting Go ahead. Yeah, go on. No, no, I'm saying uh hydr uh the freight is like getting very serious about it, especially in Canada. I can talk about that. So they'll have some uh since we talked in Arima, like some uh trials are taking place in the Quebec area of Canada. So yeah, we we'll see something there soon.
SPEAKER_03Well, I think that's you know, I don't know, it it it's kind of a neat time to be a part of the industry. I guess everybody probably says that, I'm sure, when we had uh the transition from jointed rail to to uh welded rail, and yeah, that was a huge deal. Every every step forward is kind of neat. Um where we're going with the power plants for these uh the head end units is interesting um to see where we might end up, especially as you watch the c like we talked about this in the pod, in the excuse me, in the um presentation last fall, where uh people can relate in the sense that they they're watching the commercialization of electric vehicles, right? So people can people understand uh buying a Tesla, for example, and what the pros, cons, drawbacks are to having that and and taking that to an even larger scale. Um I don't know. I think it's pretty fascinating to be a part of it and to and to and to watch it. But definitely let's let's get back real quick here uh to this award you received, because I think that's pretty cool, and I think you should talk about it. Why don't you talk about how you got it or how did you apply for it? What are the qualifications? Go as deep as you want. Um take a minute and just brag about yourself.
SPEAKER_00Uh I'll I'll okay. Uh so this award, so this is an annual award uh given by the University of Illinois College of Engineering, and uh they award it to four people every year. Uh three are distinguished alumni, and uh one is a young alumni. By young means less than 35. So I applied for that category, the young, because I'm less than 35. And uh so there are different criteria that you have to fulfill. So there's a form, and then there's a set of six questions. Uh the questions are about what are your professional achievements, uh discuss your career uh path, uh, your biography, your civic philanthropic activities, your uh what sets you apart. There are like six, seven questions, and uh like you don't have to apply, by the way. So you have to be nominated. So obviously, I I had an eye on this, and I kind of uh requested my company that hey I'm looking for this and uh would you be okay, uh you know, just helping me out with this. And they said, Yeah, definitely. So I think my company uh I was with T violin at that time, and T Valin like really helped me. Um they obviously asked for my inputs, like you know, give us something, your CV, and then they extracted some data. So from that, our uh my boss and my the marketing person, my boss was Robert Gor Gorski, then um, and Susan Johnson was our marketing person. So they helped me uh so they basically Susan helped Bob prepare the submission and uh I got nomination. And they were actually there was a few nominations from university as well, because that really counts as a university award. And then um my we know when I was in U of I, my research partner who happens to be the principal chief engineer of the Indian Railways right now, he was like a senior guy to me. Like he was like 50 when he came to the university, and he was my we were both research assistants in one project we were doing with Conrad, and uh he also nominated me. So um, so that's the criteria. I got a few nominations, uh, but I think what would have set my profile apart was my uh my association with Arima. Like like ever since I came to US, like I came here in 2015. I went to my first Arima in 2015, that was in Minneapolis, and I was like really amazed. And I was like, you know, this is like the place where you can meet and uh you know gain something. You can uh like you can really learn something, you contribute. So I I really made a like promise to myself that you know I have to do something with this organization. So very next year I presented my research and I have been presenting since 2016. Like I have done something like a paper or a session or like a panel discussion. Uh so Arima, the my association with Arima and the fact that I happened to be the keynote speaker last year. So that I think that really is a big thing, you know, like being a keynote speaker in front of like thousands of people. So um, so that really helped. And plus uh uh talking about my research, the papers that I have sent to Arima, so they were they focused on effective project management skills. They talked about digital engineering skills, and most of the papers they pertain to resiliency and sustainability. So I think, and those papers I wrote from my uh work, it's not like I did any research or anything, but it was my uh case studies and the industry research that I'm doing in my project. So we have to take permission from my clients and uh we write something, and we can't obviously reveal most of the you know design or anything, but we just talk about how we uh solved a particular problem. So I think my uh I think because that's what uh when I saw when I when I was uh when Susan, my the marketing person, when she told me that she said, you know, this arema looks really good in my CV, and that's she said I would make this as the selling, but I was like, sure, go ahead.
SPEAKER_03So Arima Arima really helps. So what what let me let me just back you up here for a second because there's a lot to unpack. But what committee did you join?
SPEAKER_00I am a member of two committees, committee 12 and committee 7.
SPEAKER_03And what do those do? What is 12?
SPEAKER_00Uh uh 12 is passenger in transit and 17 is high-speed rail systems.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so you're on two technical committees, and each year you're writing abstracts, submitting them to present, uh, writing papers, and you're getting accepted. So you basically just uh I mean, just hear me out, but it's it sounds like you jumped in with both feet right after school, right? You you graduated, you I thought you said 2017. 2017. Um did you was there a was there a college-based chapter of AREMA or what or did you start as a professional?
SPEAKER_00I started uh because of the AREMA student chapter at U of I. Because you know, we have this rail tech research group there. So they they used to be the only the prime you know student, like the biggest student chapter. But right now, I think uh all the universities are doing good. Now we have uh now if you see committee 24, there are at least 15 or 20 student chapters from different universities around America. So things have changed a lot. So yeah, I st to answer your question, I started in 2015. I came here because of the research group, Railtech. They got us uh yeah, Railtech uh uh uh Railtech brought us to Arima in Minneapolis. Then as a student, I presented my first paper in 2016. And uh yeah, and since 17 I I joined industry and I have been coming to Arima as an industry person.
SPEAKER_03Okay, well that sounds so let me ask you this. Um that's a I I love the timeline because it's just uh it shows how quickly a person can graduate, get into the industry, and get active. I mean, did you feel like there were barriers to getting active, or did you feel like the industry was pretty like uh you know, open arms accepted you uh into the committees and to get active? What would you say to that? To it to say a young person who's like, ah, maybe I want to do this, maybe I don't. If you if you're riding an elevator with this person, what would you say?
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah, I mean it was it was like they embraced if that's Yeah, they embraced with open arms. Like Arima, like it was so easy. I literally just expressed my interest to Lucas. Uh he's the he was the head of committee 17 then. I said, Hey Lucas, I'm a student. I really want to join this. And I was one of the very few students. There were hardly two or three. And then he said, Yeah, he said, just send me your CV and then we'll have a look and then we'll decide. And and yeah, like they accepted me. And uh it was really good to see. You know, like we refer to Arima manuals on a daily basis. Like as of now, even today, like I'll be referring to Arima in my meeting, which is in 30 minutes. I have to tell two clients, hey, this is what Arima says. So being a part of drafting those technical standards, that manual, editing those, like that sorts of that gives you a very good experience, you know. Like everybody in the country and the continent is using those manual, right? And if you are in the committee, you are giving your inputs. Even if you're not giving your inputs, you are part of the committee which is editing, modifying it. So it feels good. Like you feel good about yourself. And uh yeah, uh, Arima was very accepting. Talking about the industry as a whole, it was a bit tough for me. Uh because you know, I'm an international student. I really wanted to join freight. Uh, but like freights have some uh uh policy for international students, so it was a bit tough for me, but for me, the consultancy doors were open. So I applied to all the consultancies there, Paycom, WSP, STV.
SPEAKER_03Um and you you mentioned that to me uh actually before we started the podcast, and I know you did want to touch on that uh uh uh briefly. Maybe you can expand uh about being an international student um and and the barriers to getting into this industry. Uh, what advice would you give?
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah, I mean, to get into the industry, I would say uh I mean I'll just tell from my experience. Like if you want to join if you're international students coming to America and want to join the government jobs, that's tough. That I would say that's a big no. Even if you want to join freight, that's private. But uh freights have some old uh rules, which nothing against them, but uh that doesn't allow an international student to work for it. Like even the career phase, like it was written, we accept citizens only or something like that. So don't get disheartened, like they have their own rules, but there are different paths that you can take. Consultancy happens to be one of those, advocacy firms happens to be one of those. So go for those. And I think things are changing. I know some of my friends lately, like two, three years ago, um, because of their niche niche skills, like the rail techs uh junior my juniors there, they got into uh I think UP Union Pacific. So I think things are changing. Obviously, things have to change, you know, you know, everything is dynamic in this world. Like if you need a person, you should hire that person. So I think things will change, but right now, be practical. Like just focus your energy on on in the field that that's accepting you, you know. So I would say that's my advice. Yeah. Just focus on yeah, just focus on that.
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah, I know I think that's that is good advice. So let's let's continue down that path. Uh, you said you're under 35, you won the young young uh alumni award here. Uh where do you see yourself uh say five years from now? What's what are your your your goals? Uh you've you've got this great base behind you, you've got contacts you've made in the industry. Do you see yourself staying in the rail industry or do you see yourself going back to India at some point? What do you think?
SPEAKER_00That's a good question. Uh talking about five years from now, I see myself in America. Uh like like Canada, like I have been in Canada for three years now. So I think that's a lot. Like I like in my six, seven years of career, like I have moved cities every two years. So I think uh uh yeah, maybe I'll stay in Canada for two, three more years, get some experience here. By the way, Canada is like a hub. By Canada, I mean Toronto. Toronto is pushing for rail transit like crazy. Like so there, like every like wherever I go, there's a a transit line that's getting constructed. You trust me, by 2035, the system would be so extensive. Um like you would need a car. So right now, traffic there's a big traffic problem here, and there are only two lines, line one and two, uh, for for transit and the public transportation system, the subway lines. So uh so yeah, I see myself in Toronto maybe uh maybe two, three more years, and then um I will stay in the rail industry. Maybe I would like to come back to US. Uh maybe Midwest. I haven't explored Midwest since I left college, maybe California. Um I see myself as a full-fledged PM of a rail project, if I can, yeah, if I can put a designation to it. So that's the plan. Maybe get involved in some high-speed rail projects because I have been doing a lot of heavy rail, uh light rail, but all public passenger transit.
SPEAKER_03Okay. So it sounds like there's more than enough work there in Toronto with just the expansion um of their system that you're you see at least the next five or so years uh uh there. So would you say as far as Arima, you'll stay a member of those two committees. You're gonna continue to work on sustainability resiliency. Did you did you participate in the symposium in Tampa this winter?
SPEAKER_00Or sadly, no, because I was in the like middle of some career changes. Uh so I I couldn't attend because that was happening in Feb and my move was happening in Feb. Uh, but I'm pretty sure like starting next year, I I'll give it a shot. Because uh actually some of my friends actually went to that symposium and they actually presented his name is Mark Nilsen, and uh he was saying great things, you know, that's very focused group talking about rail and just the environment. You know, Arima is huge, there are manufacturers, suppliers, so there's not like I mean there are there are places where you can talk about your discipline-specific stuff, but uh, but I think symposium he had great things to say. So yeah, hoping next year.
SPEAKER_03Um I do know the next year uh is gonna be a structures symposium. Um that is uh that is well that was confidential until about 10 seconds ago when I said it. Um I just I believe I believe it's gonna slowly get uh leak its way out here that we're gonna be doing a structures symposium. Uh we're shooting for February, I believe, and I think we're shooting for uh the Fort Worth area. Um there's a lot of details yet to come. Um the structures functional group has put together uh a leader for that symposium, Mr. Uh Ron Barry. And I'll probably have him on the podcast here in a few months to talk to talk about it and uh talk about what what is upcoming. But the symposiums are pretty cool because to your point, it's a it's a it's a concentrated version of the fall conference, right? It's it's like you're taking one topic and you're diving even deeper uh versus trying to be everything to everybody, which which is fine too. They they both have their place. Um but I believe each year we're gonna try and do more of these uh as the topics come up. But they're they're a lot of work, and this is a volunteer organization, and it takes it just takes a lot of hours to to put these together. But uh, I'm glad to hear that you had you've heard good things, and uh that's really cool. So uh so uh I gotta ask you, so your dead your father, right? Um you said he was a he retired a few years ago as one of the top officers. Is he disappointed that you uh didn't make it?
SPEAKER_00I'm sure he never sings it. I wish I had done two more questions correctly, I would have gotten that rank, but uh I think that was the thing.
SPEAKER_03I can't get I can't get past that. I I I just I had no idea. I mean, you see, at least in America, when you see pictures of the Indian railway system, um, a lot of times it's these it these rail cars that have people standing on the roof and they're standing on the sides and they're hanging on, and they don't realize how massive that system is and how uh how dependent that country is on using it.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. So Indian Railways is called the lifeline of the nation. Not any other country would call railways as the lifeline. We have a separate ministry. So by the way, talking about those pictures that you are mentioning, that is a farce. That's false. Like uh I mean it must have happened once or twice, that too in a remote line. But uh Indian Railways is like the third largest railway network, they have the second highest uh uh uh maybe rolling stock. Uh, I'm not sure about that. But uh uh but yeah, that's a lifeline. Everybody, like as a kid, I just took plane once in my life. Second plane ride was for uh Chicago when I was coming for studies. So like we were so much uh into railways, like we never thought of taking a plane. Well, now things are changing, obviously. Like air travel is getting more popular because like there's a limit to up to which you can load the train, right? Now, like as a kid, there were trains with 10 cars. Now we have trains what with 24 cars, like the stations are being getting very long, one kilometer long station. So yeah, like railways, uh Indian Railway is doing good. I think they have their high-speed rail coming up. Uh, I think that should be running in 2027, like true high-speed rail. Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I think that's fascinating. So um, you know, if you tuned into this episode, uh love just set the record straight on uh the Indian Railways. And I think that's I don't know. Uh you learn something every day, I guess is what they say. And uh that's pretty that's interesting stuff um coming from a country that, as you know, uh we we pretty much depend on on air travel to get from major city to major city just because of the layout of the country and the size of the cities, etc. etc. I don't want I don't want to go down that rabbit hole as to why there's not a lot of high-speed rail here, but we do pride ourselves in in having one of the best heavy hall um uh railways in the in the world. And I do think that other countries look to us for that. Love, this has been a lot of fun. I know you you mentioned you actually mentioned it a few minutes ago that you have a client meeting coming up. So the last thing I want to do is make you late for a client meeting, but I really appreciate you taking some time and and being a guest on the podcast. And uh man, I can't wait to see you again. I'll probably see you in uh Lewisville uh this fall, yeah?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Looking forward to meeting you. Yeah, always a pleasure to talk to you, by the way.
SPEAKER_03All right, we'll talk to you soon, buddy.
SPEAKER_00All right, bye.
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